On Tim Dog, gangs, community and organization.

This video came up in a recent discussion about Crips and Bloods in 2008 New York as we were reminiscing about the days when they didn't belong here. I'm originally from the Midwest so Tim Dog was not on my radar really. I was too busy getting jumped for claiming that I was a GD when I really wasn't, and pedaling my bike 10 times faster than normal because I was in the 40s blocks with red on instead of green, or in the 30s blocks with blue on instead of red.

Also of interest is something that relates to another recent discussion I had with friends -- the mention of "kings" in the entry below on the Folk Nation. We talked the other day about how black men are like little "kings" with no confederacy, often incapable of working together due to ego, and, because of this, a resorting to a tendency to utilize the services of women more often than not, in forming, growing and maintaining organizations and/or ideas. Not because black men manipulate women all the time, but because women tend to be less egotistical and thus more willing to contribute to another's vision. Look at the organization "US", look at the "Black Panther Party".

I guess street gangs appear to be operated by men but I assume they are held together by women in vital economic roles such as drug running and prostitution, and of course drug customers. Going to have to think on that one some more. Our conclusion the other night though was that it's going to take some creative ways to harness the power of the black male ego -- to tone it down while preserving the positive aspects of it -- to really get us working together and organizing without being threatened by each other or feeling like working with each other waters down our personal "kingdom"/destiny -- you know brothers, the one your mama always told you was yours if you worked hard enough for it.

In some ways I think we have to forsake the pride of our mothers who blow up our heads larger than they should ever be blown, in order to work together. Are we willing to practice diplomacy among each other and make compromises in order to build community? Or will we continue to pursue our personal kingdoms because we see anyone outside of our friendship circles as threats?


Folk Nation (wiki)
"After the split each leader was considered a king in his own right. Each having loyalty to the national rules, but following only their set king."

People Nation (wiki)
"Many of the African American gangs adopted an Islamic religious doctrine, while many Latin gangs in the People alliance adopted a Catholic one."

Latin Kings (wiki)
"Latin King documents reveal a man by the name "Gino Gustavo Colon" (a.k.a. Lord Gino) is considered the "SUN" of the Almighty Latin King Nation in Chicago and has been for a long time. Latin King headquarters is located on Beach and Spaulding in Northwest Chicago. Luis Felipe created his version of the Almighty Latin King and Queen Nation "manifesto" based on teachings he had picked up from his time in Chicago, the "motherland." Felipe designated himself as Inca and Supreme Crown. In 1995 Antonio Fernandez was designated Inca and Supreme Crown of New York State and New Jersey, and the ALKQN once again began a transformation."

Gangster Disciples (wiki)
"The Gangster Disciples began with Larry Hoover who entered and rose through the ranks of the Chicago gang circuit in the 1960s and took control of the gang in 1974 by leading a series of increasingly powerful alliances.[1] He ran the gang from prison until he was transferred to a higher security wing in the 1990s. Hoover was born in Jackson, Mississippi on November 30, 1950. He moved to Chicago with his family in 1955. At the age of 16, Hoover joined a gang of 50 older youths called the Supreme Gangsters. Hoover and his Supreme Gangsters hung around their neighborhood at the corner of 68th and Green Street in impoverished Englewood on the South Side of Chicago. Hoover was kicked out of high school on the first day of his sophomore year in 1965, after being shot in the thigh by a rival gang member."

Bloods (wiki)
"While being great rivals to the blue-color Crips, the Bloods goes all the way back to the 1970s, where the Pirus street gang, originally a set or faction of the Crips[6][7], broke off during the 1970s internal gang war and founded the gang that would eventually become known as the Bloods. Therefore, the Pirus are considered to be the original founders of the Bloods."

Crips (wiki)
"The Crips are a primarily, but not exclusively, African American gang founded in Los Angeles, California in 1969 mainly by 16-year-old Raymond Washington and Stanley "Tookie" Williams. Stanley "Tookie" Williams, generally acknowledged as co-founder of the Crips,[9] started his own gang called the Westside Crips. The Crips became popular throughout southern Los Angeles as more youth gangs joined; at one point they outnumbered non-Crip gangs by 3 to 1, sparking disputes with non-Crip gangs, including the L.A. Brims, Athens Park Boys, the Bishops, and the Denver Lanes. Along with friends, Stanley Williams and Raymond Washington created the initial intent of continuing the revolutionary ideology of the 1960s. These aspirations were unattainable because of a general lack of political leadership and guidance. Washington and Williams were never able to develop an agenda for social change within the community and instead became obsessed with protecting themselves from other gangs in the community. By 1971 the gang's notoriety had spread across Los Angeles. The gang became increasingly violent as they attempted to expand their turf. By the early 1980s the gang was heavily involved with drug trade."

Black P. Stones (wiki)
Black P. Stones, originally Black Stone Rangers, are a gang that formed in the area of Blackstone Avenue and Sixty-sixth Place in the Woodlawn area of the South Side of Chicago.[1] In later years, a quasi-Islamic faction of the gang emerged, naming themselves the El Rukn tribe of the Moorish Science Temple in America (or simply El Rukns), under their 'religious leader' and Blackstone Rangers founder Abdullah-Malik (born Jeff Fort)[2]. The BPSN has managed to finance itself through a wide array of criminal activities and are also part of the large Chicago-based gang alliance known as the People Nation.[3] The Black P. Stones' main rivals are the Gangster Disciples, and to a lesser degree, the Black Disciples. They are rivals to all Folk Nation gangs, white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Brotherhood, and white power skinheads. Their allies are the Vice Lords, Latin Kings and other People Nation Gangs, Black Separatist Groups, Zulu Nation, Five Percenters, the Bloods, the Chicago Outfit. There are 9 BPS branches in Chicago: Gangster Stones, King Stones, Jet Black Stones, Rubinite Stones, Familia Stones, Puerto Rican Stones, Corner Stones, and Black P. Stones.

Vice Lords (wiki)
The Almighty Vice Lord Nation (abbreviated AVLN, VLN or CVLN) is the second largest and one of the oldest street gangs in Chicago.[1] Their total membership is estimated to be more than 120,000. They are also one of the founding members of the People Nation multi-gang alliance. In 1958, the Vice Lords "club" was founded by several African American youths originally from the North Lawndale neighborhood of Chicago. These youths met while incarcerated in the Illinois State Training School for Boys in St. Charles (also known as the St. Charles Juvenile Correctional Facility). At the time, they were led by founding member Edward "Pepalo" Perry.[1] The name is taken from the dictionary definition of "vice", meaning "to have a tight hold".[1]
As the original Vice Lords group were released from incarceration, they quickly began to recruit other African American youths from their neighborhood and began engaging in conflicts with other "clubs" from various Chicago neighborhoods.[1] By 1964, they had grown significantly and law enforcement named them as a primary target for their various illegal activities, including robbery, theft, assaults, battery, intimidation, and extortion.[1] They were noted for their violent behavior and were feared throughout the Lawndale neighborhood.

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