Raina: [...] Who are we working so hard to please? Have we as a people (not a black people -- but a human people) learned how to identify our true selves? Do we know who we are as individuals? What are our personal passions? Why are we living? It's been said that a minuet 20% of humanity will find their passion and live for its fulfillment. Though personal passion and human affection are distinctly different they dance a balancing act that can equate to holistic prosperity. Happiness is at the root of issue. Once one finds what they can do for themselves to give true meaning to to their life, the glow that they posses with become so bright that even blindest of men/women will be attracted to its warmth.
Electricladylike said: Wow! This must be the theme for 2008. Because I SWEAR all of the Ladies I know are grappling with this same thing!
At first when I began to read I thought...uh oh, Male-Bashing-101 (I mean it had the makings of it with the whole “I AM and I AM...” which normally leads to “He’s NOT and He’s NOT”). But as I continued to read I saw where she was going and thought AIN’T this about a you-know-what!
I am REALLY starting to believe that the Black professional woman of today has been misguided, misdirected and encouraged to move in the direction of what will ultimately be Queenicide (a random term I thought of to describe this phenomenon). It’s a set-up from the get go, and I’m just going to flat out say it (most folks who I talk to often have already heard me say this). I think that maybe we have been groomed to move in spaces and behave in ways that are unnatural for institutions like marriage.
In other words, it sounds good to be “Wonder-Woman-hear-Me-Roar!” but in reality, it doesn’t work in a relationship.
And its just not the idea of being excellent in one’s endeavors because that’s what we are on earth to do: be excellent. But it seems like this whole career oriented society promotes some of the most relationship-alienating behavior where:
1. work comes before all
2. success=being an “Individual” and
3. if a man doesn’t work in your industry or have it “together” he’s not “worthy” of a woman of “your status.”
And THEN there’s the issue of multi-tasking which still requires something to be sacrificed. For some its love, for others career (or just pursuing your goals).
But it appears as if both can never be done completely (as far as women are concerned). Now maybe because of the nature of things, the way of this world that we live in, I don’t know but its like men have certain roles and women have others. I almost feel like some kind of way, I got a chance to “live like a man”: roam freely, be single, move and go where I want, etc without very few strings “holding me back” (lol!). Problem IS though (and there are problems) that just gets played out and while I feel like I have a lot to give the world, I recognize that the relationship aspect got pushed back for more “valuable” endeavors like um…ME! Which is cool, but then there comes that point and time where its like, Hey, I’m out here doing this by myself and that is NOT what I want, never wanted, and how in the HELL did I end up here? Lol.
Yeah, so I feel this Sister I think its real talk (its not ideal or pretty, but I’m starting to spend less time going against the grain and checking myself and my expectations and really questioning what I THINK is supposed to happen simply because “ESSENCE said so”, or some other relationship-advising source made it seem like that was the case!). I’m SO over it.
Definitely interested in moving forward with reality, interested in making moves towards whatever gets me to the After (as far as the whole concept of a marriage union goes). And apparently something is missing and somewhere the ball has been dropped. I think the Black Family should be Top priority! Everything else is a means to an end! :)
Ariel's thoughts: I guess I understand to a degree, but some of that sounds like too much of a compromise. Why are women assumed to adjust and sacrifice? What are men sacrificing ? They need to get with the program and understand that somethings have changed...)
Raina's humble 2-cents: I feel that to some degree many woman have lost their outward expression of femininity -- especially in the success driven capitals of our nation. Perhaps it is because some have reached certain career and social levels that we as Americans have been told "make us more valuable" we assume that everyone around us is capable of recognizing our newly obtained status. We cut back on elegance and generosity and pound up on expectation and greed. This is the western-mind and it is as shallow as skin bleaching, paper bag tests, good hair, and dare I say it...Christ the Redeemer. Who are we working so hard to please? Have we as a people (not a black people- but a human people) learned how to identify our true selves? Do we know who we are as individuals? What are our personal passions? Why are we living? Its been said that a minuet 20% of humanity will find their passion and live for its fulfillment. Though personal passion and human affection are distinctly different they dance a balancing act that can equate to holistic prosperity. Happiness it at the root of issue. Once one finds what they can do for themselves to give true meaning to to their life, the glow that they posses with become so bright that even blindest of men/women will be attracted to its warmth.
(Joy Jones) Are Women Scaring Off Their Men?: Have you met this woman? She has a good job, works hard, and earns a good salary. She went to college, she got her master's degree; she is intelligent. She is personable, articulate, well read, interested in everybody and everything Yet, she's single.
Or maybe you know this one. Active in the church.
Faithful, committed, sings in the choir, serves on the usher board, and attends every committee meeting. Loves the Lord and knows the Word. You'd think that with her command of the Scriptures and the respect of her church members, she'd have a marriage as solid as a rock. But again, no husband.
Or perhaps you recognize the community activist. She's a black lady, or, as she prefers, an African American woman, on the move. She sports A short natural; sometimes cornrow braids, or even dread locks.She 's an organizer, a motivator, a dynamo. Her work for her people speaks for itself--organizing women for a self-help, raising funds for A community cause, educating others around a new issue in South Africa. Black folks look up to her, and white folks know she's a force to be reckoned with. Yet once again, the men leave her alone.
What do these women have in common? They have so much; what is it they lack? Why is it they may be able to hook a man but can't hold him? The women puzzle over this quandary themselves. They gather at professional clubs, at sorority meetings or over coffee at the office and wonder what's wrong with black men? They hold special prayer vigils and fast and pray and beg Jesus to send the men back to church. They find the brothers attending political strategizing sessions or participating in protests but when it comes time to go home, the brothers go home to someone else.
I know these women because I am all of these women.
And after asking over and over again "What's wrong with these men?", it finally dawned on me to ask the question, "What's wrong with us women?" What I have found, and what many of these women have yet to discover, is that the skills that make one successful in the church, community or workplace are not the skills that make one successful in a relationship.
Linear thinking, self-reliance, structured goals and direct action assist one in getting assignments done, in organizing church or club activities or in positioning oneself for a raise, but relationship- building requires different skills. It requires making decisions that not only gratify you, but satisfy others. It means doing things that will keep the peace rather than achieve the goal, and sometimes it means creating the peace in the first place Maintaining a harmonious relationship will not always allow you to take the straight line between two points. You may have to stoop to conquer or yield to win.
In too m any cases, when dealing with men, you will have to sacrifice being right in order to enjoy being loved. Being acknowledged as the head of the household is an especially important thing for many black men, since their manhood is so often actively challenged everywhere else. Many modern women are so independent, so self-sufficient, so committed to the cause, to the church, to career or their narrow concepts that their entire personalities project an "I don't need a man" message. So they end up without one. An interested man may be attracted but he soon discovers that this sister makes very little space for him in her life.
Going to graduate school is a good goal and an option that previous generations of blacks have not had. But sometimes the achieving woman will place her boyfriend so low on her list of priorities that his interest wanes. Between work, school and homework, she's seldom "there" for him, for the preliminaries that might develop a commitment to a woman. She's too busy to prepare him a home-cooked meal or to be a listening ear for his concerns because she is so occupied with her own.
Soon he uses her only for uncommitted sex since to him she appears unavailable for anything else. Blind to the part she's playing in the problem, she ends up thinking, "Men only want one thing." And she decides she's better off with the degree than the friendship. When she's 45, she may wish she'd set different priorities while she was younger. It's not just the busy career girl who can't see the forest for the trees.
A couple I know were having marital troubles. During one argument, the husband confronted the wife and asked what she thought they should do about the marriage, what direction they should take. She reached for her Bible and turned to Ephesians. "I know what Paul says and I know what Jesus says about marriage," he told her, "What do you say about our marriage?" Dumbfounded, she could not say anything. Like so many of us, she could recite the Scriptures but could not apply them to everyday living. Before the year was out, the husband had filed for divorce. Women who focus on civil rights or community activism have vigorous, fighting spirits and are prepared to do whatever, whenever, to benefit black people. That's good. That's necessary. But it needs to be kept in perspective. It's too easy to save the world and lose your man.
A fighting spirit is important on the battlefield, but a gentler spirit is wanted on the home front. Too many women are winning the battle and losing the home. Sometimes in our determined efforts to be strong believers and hard workers, we contemporary women downplay, denigrate or simply forget our more traditional feminine attributes. Men value women best for the ways we are different from them, not the ways we are the same. Men appreciate us for our g race and beauty. Men enjoy our softness and see it as a way to be in touch with their tender side, a side they dare not show to other men. A hard-working woman is good to have on your committee. But when a man goes home, he'd prefer a loving partner to a hard worker.
It's not an easy transition for the modern black woman to make. It sounds submissive, reactionary, outmoded, and oppressive. We have fought so hard for so many things, and rightfully so. We have known so many men who were shaky, jive and untrustworthy. Yet we must admit that we are shaky, jive and willful in our own ways. Not having a husband allows us to do whatever we want, when and how we want to do it. Having one means we have to share the power and certain points will have to be surrendered. We are terrified of marriage and commitment, yet dread the prospect of being single and alone.
Throwing ourselves into work seems to fill the void without posing a threat. But like any other drug, the escape eventually becomes the cage. To make the break, we need to do less and "be" more. I am learning to "be still and know," to be trusting. I am learning to stop competing with black men and to collaborate with them, to temper my assertive and aggressive energy with softness and serenity. I'm not preaching a philosophy of "women be seen and not heard." But I have come to realize that I, and many of my smart and independent sisters are out of touch with our feminine center and Therefore out of touch with our men.
About a year ago, I was at an oldies-but-goodies club.
As a Washingtonian, love to do the bop and to hand dance styles that were popular when I was a teen. In those dances, the man has his set of steps and the woman has hers, but the couple is still two partners and must move together. On this evening, I was sitting out a record when a thought came to me. If a man were to say, "I'm going to be in charge and you're going to follow. I want you to adjust your ways to fit in with mine" I'd dismiss him as a Neanderthal. With my hand on my hip, I'd tell him that I have just as much sense as he does and that he can't tell me what to do. Yet, on the dance floor, I love following a man's lead. I don't feel inferior because my part is different from his, and I don't feel I have to prove that I'm just as able to lead as he is. I simply allow him to take my hand, and I go with the flow.
I am still single. I am over 30 and scared. I am still a member of my church, have no plans to quit my good government job and will continue to do what I can for my people. I think that I have a healthy relationship with a good man. But today, I know that I have to bring some of that spirit of the dance into my relationship. Dancing solo, I've mastered that. Now I'm learning how to accept his lead, and to go with the flow! (source)
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